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Deo Veritas Made-to-Measure Shirt Review (Round 2)

Published on September 14, 2015 by Brock McGoff · Product Reviews May contain affiliate links (what's this?)

This post is made possible by Deo Veritas, whose shirts I’ve worn since 2013.

Deo Veritas Review

Deo Veritas is one of the first online made-to-measure shirt companies I reviewed (back in August 2013). Here’s the link to that post:

Deo Veritas Review

That first shirt turned out pretty well, especially considering the fact that I didn’t have much experience with buying MTM shirts at the time.

Don’t get me wrong – it wasn’t perfect. The shoulders were too wide. I didn’t really have my body measurements nailed down back then, and I submitted the wrong shoulder measurement.

But it’s still a nice shirt. I’ve worn it somewhat regularly, and I can honestly say that it’s one of the highest quality MTM shirts I own (and I have a lot of them).

The shirt has held up extremely well over the years, which is not always the case with MTM garments.

You probably notice how shirts fall apart over time, right? Buttons come off, threads come loose and – my personal pet peeve – the collar gets misshapen.

None of this has happened to my first Deo Veritas shirt, and I expect this new one to age just as gracefully.

We all want high quality shirts, and every company claims that their shirts are the best. But how can you tell if it’s true?

What Makes a High Quality Shirt

There are two things that determine the quality of a shirt:

  1. Materials (fabric, etc.)
  2. Craftsmanship

The best fabric in the world won’t make up for shoddy construction quality, and top notch craftsmanship is wasted on low quality materials.

Deo Veritas offers a range of fabrics – from affordable basics to some of the best in the world (like Thomas Mason and Tessitura Monti).

For this review, I went with a Thomas Mason yellow and blue grid pattern ($133).

Deo Veritas shirt label

The fabric quality is what you can expect from Thomas Mason – premium. The construction quality is on point as well.

Notice the following:

  • Single needle stitching
  • Sewn collar interlining (for $9 extra, highly recommended)
  • 16+ stitches per inch
  • Mother of Pearl buttons (cross-stitched)
  • Split yoke (notice the pattern matching)
  • Removable collar stays

These are little details, but they make a big difference.

Single needle stitching Removable collar stays Dress shirt embroidered intials Split yoke pattern matching

Split yoke construction (seen above) requires more fabric, especially if you want the pattern to meet in the middle. This is called pattern matching, and it’s typically a sign of high quality craftsmanship.

Bottom line: it’s a really nice shirt. But you know that fit is more important than anything else, including quality. So how does this shirt fit?

Let’s take a look:

Deo Veritas shirt fit_front

The neck, shoulders, chest and sleeves are near perfect. I usually avoid spread or cutaway collars because I have a narrow face. But this one looks okay because the collar point length is so short.

Deo Veritas shirt fit_back

As you can see, it fits really well. Yes, there is some excess fabric on the lower back. This could be fixed with darts, as seen in my original DV review:

Back Darts vs No Back Darts

Darts are a good idea, especially if you have a “V” shaped torso. You can also use a clean tuck (like the military tuck) to prevent your shirts from bunching up around your waist.

Honestly, though, it’s not a big deal.

Don’t get too hung up on every little wrinkle or fold. Shirts aren’t meant to be perfectly smooth, as if they were painted on.

Plus, a little extra fabric is usually much more comfortable.

If you order from DV, I recommend using their QSizing tool. It’s an eight question survey that helps nail down your measurements by comparing your data to the entire customer database.

Just remember: algorithmic tools like this aren’t perfect. Always measure yourself and your best-fitting shirt, then compare those numbers to whatever the tool comes up with.

DV shirt with suit

Deo Veritas custom tie

Another thing I like about Deo Veritas is the fact that they offer custom neckties. You can choose the fabric, length and width of your tie.

DV tie pattern close up

This is great news for shorter men since most ties are several inches too long.

This tie is 55″ instead of the standard 58″. If you’re under 5’6″, I recommend going even shorter (maybe 53″).

The colors and patterns look great together.

Deo Veritas necktie closeup

Like my original Deo Veritas shirt, this one has earned a permanent spot in my closet. It’s not the most affordable MTM shirt in my collection, but it’s definitely one of the best.

What do you think about this shirt and tie? Leave a comment below!

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About Brock McGoff

The Modest Man founder, Brock is an aspiring minimalist who enjoys working out, spending time with his family, discovering new brands and creating great content.

Background: Brock McGoff has a bachelor's degree in psychology and a professional background in digital marketing. He believes that men's fashion is just one facet of self-improvement, and he started The Modest Man to help regular guys feel more confident by improving their appearance.

An east coast native, Brock currently lives in Arizona with his wife and daughter. When he's not working, he spends time with family, training BJJ, reading/listening to books and podcasts, and unsuccessfully trying to decide which movie to stream.

Expertise: Brock has built a men's lifestyle YouTube channel with over 400k subscribers. He's also worked as the creative marketing manager in a men's apparel startup. Brock has been quoted in, mentioned by or featured in publications like Esquire, Huff Post, Men's Health, WWD and Forbes.

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  1. [email protected] says

    January 14, 2018 at 11:20 pm

    Hi Brock, need a little advice. My shirt order is stale, Deo Veritas shirt company. over 2 months since placing order. Upon first contact they stated they were busy ans wait for as tutus some time next week. Well it’s now 3 wks and they haven’t even responded to my last email requesting a status.. Can I cancel this order? Is this a normal time span

    Reply
  2. Michael says

    March 27, 2016 at 6:07 pm

    Hey Brock, have heard of these guys?

    https://www.mtailor.com/

    It’s a really cool concept using your phone to scan you for measurements. And they claim they are 20% more accurate than tailors. I saw some good reviews on YouTube, some others where not completely satisfied at first, but like any good MTM company, it seemed like MTailor worked with them until theymade it right.

    I’d love to see you put together a review from these guys.

    Keep up the good work!

    Reply
    • Brock says

      March 27, 2016 at 6:28 pm

      I’ll check them out. Heard of them but haven’t tried it yet. Very skeptical that this will work better than a real, in person tailor (that’s a bold claim!).

      Reply
      • Michael says

        March 28, 2016 at 5:28 pm

        Yeah, gotta love the “20% more accurate than tailors” claim that is based on their own analysis. Still, cool concept nonetheless! Love to hear a take from a fellow modest man vs any old YouTuber.

        Reply
  3. Ciff Kasozi says

    October 25, 2015 at 5:46 am

    BROCK you just did it again. love the shirt want to know if DV shirts can be shipped.
    Brock i want you to do some word on socks really have a hard time chosing when to where them or not.

    Reply
  4. Emmanuel M'M says

    September 21, 2015 at 6:31 am

    Never heard of darts. As I have learnt something new!

    Reply
  5. Perseus Wong says

    September 20, 2015 at 4:55 pm

    Two questions:

    1. So the shirt is constructed by Deo Veritas…but the fabric is from TMM? Their branding is kinda’ confusing.

    2. How long did it take your order to arrive?

    Thanks.

    Reply
    • Brock says

      September 20, 2015 at 5:14 pm

      Typically a garment manufacturer doesn’t make their own fabrics. They order fabric from mills all over the world.

      I think it took a little over 3 weeks.

      Reply
  6. Sharon Barresi says

    September 20, 2015 at 10:44 am

    What advantage is the split yoke for the fit? I am not a fan of the split yoke look, especially on a narrow small fit shirt. The collar seems a tad bit short but a nice style. Do you think the upper back is a good fit? It looks snug. Colours of shirt, tie and suit are spot on. Good article.

    Reply
    • Brock says

      September 20, 2015 at 11:32 pm

      The shot answer is: no real advantage. Some would say it’s more elegant (because it requires more fabric and skill), but it’s really just a matter of personal preference.

      More on that here:

      http://propercloth.com/reference/dress-shirts-split-yoke-vs-one-piece-yoke/

      The upper back (and chest) is a tiny bit snug. But I’ve been working my shoulders and back a lot recently, and I didn’t adjust my measurements accordingly.

      #swollprobs

      (Kidding of course…kinda)

      Reply
      • Vinnie says

        September 25, 2015 at 12:13 pm

        Hey Sharon / Brock,

        To add to the discussion … one other advantage to a split yoke is that the yoke thread will loosen slightly over time (based on your activity) and you’ll notice that you have more arm / shoulder movement than if you had a one piece yoke.

        Thanks,
        Vinnie

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        • Sharon Barresi says

          September 25, 2015 at 3:04 pm

          Thanks for the comment. Is this a good thing?? Is the yoke going to lose its shape or sag with the bias cut?? Maybe only a slight bias cut. I guess you can tell I am not a fan of the split yoke.

          Reply
          • Vinnie says

            September 26, 2015 at 3:24 pm

            Hi Sharon,

            The yoke shouldn’t lose it’s shape… I guess it could if the stitching was poorly done. Most shirtmakers will be able to to make you a one piece yoke if that’s your preference.

            Thanks,
            Vinnie

  7. Kevin says

    September 19, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    Thanks for writing this up, Brock.

    How would you compare Blank Label, Ratio Clothing, Deo Veritas, and Lewis & Taylor?

    Reply
    • Brock says

      September 22, 2015 at 6:29 pm

      I haven’t tried Ratio since they went MTM, so can’t really comment on them. In terms of materials and construction quality, L&T or DV take the cake.

      Blank Label is a great value for the price, and their customer service is top notch. But they lack a few customizations that I like (forearm width, cuff length, etc.).

      Keep in mind, I’ve only ordered one shirt from L&T, and that was a while ago.

      But If I had to pick one right now, it would be DV, especially since they have the non-fused collars. That’s an awesome upgrade.

      Reply
  8. dangbobys says

    September 14, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    hey brock. could you make a video / article about how to tell if a shirt is of good make? u talk about Single needle stitching for example but how can u tell?

    Reply
    • Brock says

      September 14, 2015 at 9:01 pm

      Single needle will have one line of stitching, while double will have two lines very close together.

      Good idea, though. I’ll make a whole post about these details.

      Reply
  9. Rollo says

    September 14, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    I always thought spread collars were good for people with narrow faces as it draws people’s attention outward.

    “Shirts aren’t meant to be perfectly smooth, as if they were painted on. And a little extra fabric is usually more comfortable.”

    Glad you said that. A few guys get strangely obsessive with this, trying to get a shirt that looks painted on. Clothes should be comfortable.

    Reply
    • Brock says

      September 14, 2015 at 5:40 pm

      I think wide spread collars, especially ones with long collar points, make narrow faces look even narrower. Usually the goal is to achieve some balance (narrow collar + narrow face = balance).

      But it works here because the point length is short, you know?

      Yeah man, the slim fit thing has gone pretty far…

      Reply

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